You PA cats have some great screen names! Welcome Subie fam!Cool @Pcphorse118! I'm 2 hours north of you.
You PA cats have some great screen names! Welcome Subie fam!Cool @Pcphorse118! I'm 2 hours north of you.
Expedition Master I
1537
Most of the lifting options are essentially rubber stamps of each other. LP, SUMO, Subtle, and ADF all use blocks that sit on top of your current suspension. The alternative may use springs or a combination of blocks and springs. That's how Rallitek and Primitive (King Springs) work. The only one I'd advise against is Subtle as they have a tendency to tell people that they need more parts than they actually do.Some of you have already lifted your Subie, and I could use a little advice. I've been doing some digging and I believe these MFR are the main suppliers for lifting a Subie. There are probably more....
LP Adventure: https://lpaventure.com/
Anderson Design & Fabrication: http://andersondesign-fab.com/
Subtle Solutions: http://www.subtle-solutions.com/index.php
Primitive: http://get-primitive.com/
RalliTEK: http://www.rallitek.com/
Anyone want to share pros and cons? Mechanics to be concerned with? Were there any surprises with a specific install?
I know this is a loaded topic, but as I start to plan my build I want to know what I'm getting into.
Thank for the help!
Off-Road Ranger I
I went the ADF route, had them install and it is working great. Did an alignment right after they finished and it was still within specs. Next day I drove back home from WA to SoCal and the car did not ride any different. Love their product. Looking at their install pretty straight forward, spacers on top of F&R struts and a spacer kit for the sway bar. THey have install instructions on their website.Some of you have already lifted your Subie, and I could use a little advice. I've been doing some digging and I believe these MFR are the main suppliers for lifting a Subie. There are probably more....
LP Adventure: https://lpaventure.com/
Anderson Design & Fabrication: http://andersondesign-fab.com/
Subtle Solutions: http://www.subtle-solutions.com/index.php
Primitive: http://get-primitive.com/
RalliTEK: http://www.rallitek.com/
Anyone want to share pros and cons? Mechanics to be concerned with? Were there any surprises with a specific install?
I know this is a loaded topic, but as I start to plan my build I want to know what I'm getting into.
Thank for the help!
Off-Road Ranger I
Yes I got the multi-link, it was recommended. I will be going with front and rear springs to balance the car. In the future I want to get a winch installed from LP, the hidden one for my 2017. So additional # up front.Thank you Thank you, Terry and Wawa!!!! This is exactly what I was hoping to hear. I'm leaning towards a similar install to Terry's. With the ADF installation did you also install the Multi link Spacer? Thoughts on upgrading all springs or just the rear springs to handle extra weight or saggy but issue?
Expedition Master I
1537
just gotta get 'er off-road now!Jealous
Very Cool
Yeah, the riveting is real clean looking. I'm very impressed with all the products I purchased from LP Adventures.I like the LP attaches their skid plates.
I've been doing some additional digging with regards to the 'saggy butt' regardless of a lift and you're right, there are not a lot of options out there. Seems like adjustable struts just don't exist or are difficult to get. My research is pointing me in the direction of Billstein, Koni, Cusco, and possibly Largus (Japan) as possible solutions for springs and/or struts with adjust ability. I'll keep you posted as I learn more.Most of the lifting options are essentially rubber stamps of each other. LP, SUMO, Subtle, and ADF all use blocks that sit on top of your current suspension. The alternative may use springs or a combination of blocks and springs. That's how Rallitek and Primitive (King Springs) work. The only one I'd advise against is Subtle as they have a tendency to tell people that they need more parts than they actually do.
Regardless of how you intend to go there really aren't any surprises when it comes to the install. In other words you can do the work yourself if you're a handy person with the correct tools.
There's plenty to consider when deciding how to lift. Spacers lifts retain the exact same ride quality but that means they also retain the same sagginess when you load up with gear. The flip side with springs is that the increased spring rate handles the extra weight much better but if you don't normally carry extra gear around the DD ride will suffer. Generally speaking 2" is the most popular lifting height because any more and you'll be wearing the CVs, any less and you'll wish you lifted it 2".
Hopefully this helps.
Advocate II
Expedition Master I
1537
It'll be interesting to hear what you come up with. Just remember that struts have nothing to do with the sagging. It's the springs job to carry the weight and the struts job is to control the stroke rate of the damper.I've been doing some additional digging with regards to the 'saggy butt' regardless of a lift and you're right, there are not a lot of options out there. Seems like adjustable struts just don't exist or are difficult to get. My research is pointing me in the direction of Billstein, Koni, Cusco, and possibly Largus (Japan) as possible solutions for springs and/or struts with adjust ability. I'll keep you posted as I learn more.
Congrats and welcome!Hey guys, new member here. I just picked up a 2018 Outback last week! Great information here. I traded out of a Chevrolet Tahoe, so I am still getting used to a smaller vehicle. So far I love it!