Badland Winch Review & Testing

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Leclerc.27

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Yes, I put on the 12k so I wouldn’t run into that issue quite as often.


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Thanks for the testing - HF does have that reliability issue, so it’ll be interesting to see how it plays out as you use it more. Please keep us updated! Thanks again for the write up.
 

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I'm looking forward to the review. My dad has one on his jeep and we were looking it over the other day. Looks pretty nice. I really like the tensioner on it. Wish my 8274 had one.

As for heating up in testing. I keep my pulls to 30 seconds or less. I can wait for a few seconds between pulls to allow the motor to cool. Besides, all that juice is running through the solenoids which get hot as well. You have to remember that at full load they pull 400+ amps. That's a lot of juice to go through a set of contact points and the duty cycle of most switches or solenoids is not 100% at full load. More like 10% on solenoids, or less.
 

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This is a tough one for me. I am in the market for a wench (my wife says we need one). I have been exploring off road for about a million years and I have only REALLY needed a wench one time in the snow when my vehicle slide off the road. I don’t like to admit this but the “Badlands” name associated with Harbor Freight brings up memories of cheap Chinese junk tools that fail soon after purchase. Harbor Freight has come a long way in improving the quality of the things they produce and the price point of this wench is very attractive. A quick search on Amazon and you find a bunch of wenches with good specs. The thing that keeps bringing me back to the Badlands wench is the great customer service that HF has and they do stand behind what they sell.
 

WILLD420

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Unless overloaded or abused winches are pretty sturdy. The contactor or solenoids have always been the weak point for me. Slower winches with more gearing tend to be more reliable than the fast ones.
 

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Just to throw fuel on the fire:
Warn's lifetime warranty covers defects in materials and workmanship for the life of the winch, on the machanicals, and 7 year on the electrics, non-transferrable. 'Defects in materials and workmanship' is a phrase open to interpretation.
The Warn VR series winch is made in China. The Badlands winch is a direct design copy.
Today, there are a shrinking number of American-made products, even the ones with American names on them. I only buy chinese when there isn't an American-made alternative. If I'm forced to buy chinese, I for damn sure don't pay a premium for an American label on it.
 
I like my Badland 12,000lb winch. I had a Smittybilt XRC 12,000lb, it was a noisy winch that made a growling noise that made me uneasy that it might be a unreliable. I felt in the back of my mind that winch could give me issues on the trail. I pulled the Smittybilt from my truck & bought the Badland ZXR. I changed out the wire rope & roller fairlead on the Badland winch to Master Pull 7\16" x 75ft. Classic synthetic rope & Factor 55 fairlead
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I like my Badland 12,000lb winch. I had a Smittybilt XRC 12,000lb, it was a noisy winch that made a growling noise that made me uneasy that it might be a unreliable. I felt in the back of my mind that winch could give me issues on the trail. I pulled the Smittybilt from my truck & bought the Badland ZXR. I changed out the wire rope & roller fairlead on the Badland winch to Master Pull 7\16" x 75ft. Classic synthetic rope & Factor 55 fairlead
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Looks great!
 
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So I have a Warn Zeon 12S Plat up front and HF 12K with an amazon special Synthetic Rope in the rear. I have had 4 pretty hard pulls on the HF.
Couple of thoughts here.

1. It's slow.
2. It seems to draw more current than the Warn.
3. The Bluetooth remote is finicky, and it likes to "overrun" - that is it pulls about a full second after you let go of the button. The hardwired controller doesn't do this.
4. I am getting a good comfort level with it but I am trying to keep the duty cycle low. 15 second pull with a 2 minute rest. The manual advises 45 second pull, and a 15 MINUTE rest at full load.
5. The solenoid box is poorly sealed and there is a youtube video called "Waterproof your Badlands winch" - Do all of that.


Overall, I want to get something with a better warranty but I do not regret buying this and it has already paid for itself with time and aggravation the rear winch has saved me.

For the record I have used my rear winch more than my front, so if you are considering doing it, you will be very happy.

Under truck mount

Rear Bumper

Front winch as an Anchor on this muddy hill, and the HF pulling out the 4R.


My Zeon putting in WORK.



Lemme know if you have Questions!

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Overland_Mike,

I'm curious of the amp draw you mentioned. What gauge / quality cables are you running to the rear?

Also, do you have any pics of how you mounted the rear winch?
 

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Overland_Mike,

I'm curious of the amp draw you mentioned. What gauge / quality cables are you running to the rear?

Also, do you have any pics of how you mounted the rear winch?
I have a group 31 battery that is mid-cab under the truck. I have 4/0 gauge to the front battery to it and then real 2 gauge from the rear winch cut off to the mid battery. (The HF 2 gauge doesn’t quite appear to be the best quality) Based on the charts I’m light a gauge on the rear winch but it’s only an 8 foot run.

The rear winch is mounted “feet first” meaning the “bottom” of the winch is actually the facing backwards and it’s where the cable is coming out.

It’s bolted to some 2x2x.250 spacers to push it back from the bumper plate so the cable angle isn’t so extreme.

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You can barely see the spacer here.
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My 2 cents. Yes they are very affordable. They may or may not work I have seen reviews saying they work great and I have seen reviews saying they are not fit to be a paper weight. If you want to gamble and take the chance of it maybe working when you get stuck I say go for the gamble. I spent about $75 dollars more than the cost of a badlands winch and got a superwinch that I know for sure when the time comes it will work for me