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Yup I am with @Billiebob on this, if you have the cash buy them but necessary not at all. I never bothered and in 10 years have no damage to the under carriage. Trails and overlanding are not generally the same as rock crawling or technical trail driving, the last 2 pretty much require skids...

Try rotating the plug after plugging it in, sometimes you will here a little "click" when the metal springs engage. And thanks for the mini review I was considering one these for longer trips where I am away from pavement for long periods.

Another Discovery owner, fuel mileage on these is bad to start to 25 gallon tank and maybe 300-350 (12-13 MPG)miles to the tank, I have never got better than 12 even in stock config. With larger tires, RTT and loaded right up about 11 mpg, the same as empty actually. That is a mix of hiway...

@Matt Meyers get any fish ?

The lookout may still be there but there has been some logging in the area and most of the non active roads are heavily overgrown, we just could not locate it it looks like the road has just vanished. That happens a lot up here. We have a few ground tent guys still, but our group tries to be 4...

Near the Glacier Lake lookout (no longer exists) at the N end of Harrison Lake BC. We ran out of day light and time, called it day on a dead end FSR. This is the front of the line with my Discovery on the right, us disco owner's tend to herd together. The tent overhang is just big enough to...

@MMc thanks for the post above I wondered what conditions in So Cal were. I figured very different as far as rain goes, I was not sure about roots & rocks. That makes RTT vs Ground a more interesting choice. @Paula - Canadian Explorer the trailer can be a curse, it is another discussion but...

@MMc While I will agree with you there are a lot of RTT owners who have pristine trucks that go out the odd weekend and stay in organized camp sites, where setting up a ground tent is easy. But after a couple of years I dumped the ground tent, way too much time spent trying to find clear root...

@grubworm always liked that one, but this was my mount -Light Armoured Recce around 1978 or so. No armour :blush: old ex-USMC .03 1944 issue cal rebored to 7.62, and big 50's era radio 3 guys lived for 7 days in that poor thing. Ft Lewis on 15 Div Prairie I think

@lilbear105 what about us non US vets though how do we validate ?

@Randun My Tepui actually has "skylights" so 2 windows in the roof, normally protected by the tent fly. They would be great on a clear night, but they give me an excellent vent above my head in all weather. I open about 30% on a cool/cold night and all the way on warmer nights. The small...

A follow up to Doctor's Bay video above My friend Andrew in his red Disco well to the right of cliff edge but in the big hole My happy little disco daring the cliff to take me out Finally Stewart in his LR 3 pretty much the perfect line

I think you folks are in here Canada - Prairies (AB SK MB)

use to work for a place that built kerosene ones for boats , built my own out of seconds. A bit harder to light than white gas but man that thing would light up the night, it is in storage now, no parts. But I like the white gas lanterns on a cool night that little bit of extra warmth

I think I have to agree with @OTHOverlander-ish, I thought about an RTT for 6 months until I did a 5 day trip and decided sleeping the back of my Disco was too much gear to move around each night. Being solo, with a budget and wanting a smaller light weight tent made things a little more...

Hi from the wet coast :blush: It can take a bit and this year has been pretty tough on lots of folks getting out. When you are posting for trips, add the length of trip you are looking to do, for example the local Land Rover group here does day , 2 day and 3-4 day trips during the year...

3 Discovery's coming up the obstacle at Doctor's bay on Harrison Lake. Very different levels of effort, and yes there is a vehicle down the side not from our group.

@Randun Not really they are all over the place, the simplest is pick a brand and model you like then research it. It worked well for me.

@Randun there have been some quality control issues with their previous offerings, I would do some online research to set your mind at ease

If you are looking at the Porsche buy a used 4 Runner, 2014 up are about the same price. They are within inches of being the same size and the 4 Runner will get off road without issue