Fire extinguisher

[Eric the Eric]

I usually carry x2 5 lbs fire extinguishers (ABC), but recently doing small expeditions in wild-land fire hazardous areas I have been carrying a hand pump on my 5 gallon H20 Jerry cans. I know its not much (barely a dent), but any little bit can help if there is a small fire started by accident. Also doubles as a bit of a shower too.
I like to carry a little baking soda for grease fire on the portable stove rather than waste an extinguisher.
I have been lucky never to of needed to use any for fires.

 

[Desert Runner]

This where I would like to mount at least one. Quickly within reach, and strapped in
is good.

Another point I failed to make concerns the bracket some brands offer. Those that expressed a concern with a flying extinguisher, you have a very definitive and valid point. Always get one with a steel bracket strap over a plastic one. Better yet depending on the model, some also offer a DUAL BAND STRAP for extra security. This is the one I would purchase if you need a little extra peace of mind. About 1.0 extra seconds to release from the bracket.

 

[bmwguru]

Element E50 Fire Extinguisher

Element Fire E50

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I use these element extinguishers. They are compact, they don’t expire or loose charge bouncing down a trail. Pretty handy, Clean look mounted on the truck too!

Ordered one the other day. One of the vehicle requirements for Overlandbound Rally Southeast 2019 and I needed one anyway.

 

[Desert Runner]

2.5#, mounted on the rear roll bar, with quick releaseView attachment 93454

For motorsports, those quick release brackets are great. A very secure method of attachment. I would recomed them as a attachment option.

I use one on my ATV on the rear rack, and it only takes a couple of seconds to have in your hand. My BIL uses 2x on his Polaris Razor rollbar for the same reason. They are a mandatory item for off road racing.

 

[MOAK]

I've obviously been misled with bad information.. I carry a BC extinguisher in the vehicle and an ABC extinguisher in the trailer. The trailer's is on the rear deck in the kitchen area. If any kind of fire happens, at camp we got it covered. The vehicle will either be a gasoline/petroleum products fire or an electrical fire. I don't believe there is a need for an ABC in the vehicle. Sure would be nice for some experts to chime in.. Thanks.

 

[knkunz]

ABC typically is all you need. The K is mainly used for commercial kitchen type fires. Heavy grease, fats and oils. So unless your packing around a commercial grade kitchen in the back of your truck I’d say your probably good with an ABC. But if you are packing around a commercial grade kitchen in an overland vehicle share the pics!! I gotta see it

 

[grubworm]

I've obviously been misled with bad information.. I carry a BC extinguisher in the vehicle and an ABC extinguisher in the trailer. The trailer's is on the rear deck in the kitchen area. If any kind of fire happens, at camp we got it covered. The vehicle will either be a gasoline/petroleum products fire or an electrical fire. I don't believe there is a need for an ABC in the vehicle. Sure would be nice for some experts to chime in.. Thanks.

Not sure what bad info you got...your set up sounds correct. I'm not an expert, but did have a lot of navy training on fires since fires on a submarine are big deal. The ABC extinguisher uses ammonium phosphate which works on all fires, but is best for type A fires because it forms a residue that coats hot embers, like wood, and helps keep from re-igniting. This type is not preferred for type C fires mainly because it is corrosive and can cause collateral damage to electrical components not damaged by the fire. That is where the Type BC is preferred because it uses potassium or sodium bicarbonate and isn't as damaging as the ammonium phosphate. I'm sure you heard of the fire triangle...fuel, heat and oxygen. Remove any one component and the fire is out. The dry chemical extinguishers all target displacing oxygen and smothering the fire.

 

[MOAK]

Not sure what bad info you got...your set up sounds correct. I'm not an expert, but did have a lot of navy training on fires since fires on a submarine are big deal. The ABC extinguisher uses ammonium phosphate which works on all fires, but is best for type A fires because it forms a residue that coats hot embers, like wood, and helps keep from re-igniting. This type is not preferred for type C fires mainly because it is corrosive and can cause collateral damage to electrical components not damaged by the fire. That is where the Type BC is preferred because it uses potassium or sodium bicarbonate and isn't as damaging as the ammonium phosphate. I'm sure you heard of the fire triangle...fuel, heat and oxygen. Remove any one component and the fire is out. The dry chemical extinguishers all target displacing oxygen and smothering the fire.

Thanks, that’s the info I’m familiar with.. the OP did state that “obviously we all use ABC extinguishers” well, we don’t and shouldn’t ..

 

[Desert Runner]

ABC typically is all you need. The K is mainly used for commercial kitchen type fires. Heavy grease, fats and oils. So unless your packing around a commercial grade kitchen in the back of your truck I’d say your probably good with an ABC. But if you are packing around a commercial grade kitchen in an overland vehicle share the pics!! I gotta see it

The concern is that Yes, a ABC or BC will put that fire out, assuming the extinguisher is large enough, but the powder in it is somewhat toxic and corrosive. Years ago your choices were pretty much limited. Once Halon came on the market, options arose. Halon is the best choice right now, but I believe it is scheduled for retirement by the .gov people in a few years. The smallest i have seen is the automotive 2.5 size, but they are not cheap. No residue is its greatest asset as it sucks the oxygen from the source fire. This would be best around a vehicle. Use the BC or ABC for the stove in back or around camp. A 5 lb. would be a great size outside of a vehicles cabin. I acquired a old and used water style that most of us remember in school. The type the bully's and bad boys used as over sized squirt guns. It is a great camp asset, and more effective than that mandatory 5 gallon water jug needed in fire season in some states. A dictionary type description:
Halon 1211 is a liquified gas, pressurized with nitrogen, which discharges as a vapor causing no cold or static shock and no impairment of the operator’s vision. This “CLEAN” agent quickly penetrates difficult to see and hard to reach areas and leaves no residue. :

What is Halon and How Does it Work? Halon is a "Clean Agent." The National Fire Protection Association defines, a "Clean Agent" as "an electrically non-conducting, volatile, or gaseous fire extinguishant that does not leave a residue upon evaporation." Halon is a liquefied, compressed gas that stops the spread of fire by chemically disrupting combustion.

• Halon and The Ozone Layer · H3r Clean Agents

 

[Hefty Smurf]

Element E50 Fire Extinguisher

Element Fire E50

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I use these element extinguishers. They are compact, they don’t expire or loose charge bouncing down a trail. Pretty handy, Clean look mounted on the truck too!

Ordering one of these now, direct from the manufacturer. Anyone use the magnetic mount? How do you like it?

 

[64Trvlr]

I have 3 5# extinguishers in my Willys. I have a 5# Halon (1211) and 2 5# ABC (3A, 40BC) mounted in steel brackets with rubber straps. I used to have a 5# Purple K but kept getting it and the 5# ABC confused so I went with 2 ABC's.

Yup, I know sounds like a lot of overkill. After the fire is out I have never once heard anyone complain about too many extinguishers or having one that didn't get used. Once things get to burning too much is just about right, especially if it's my stuff.

Here's a pic of the brackets I use, easy to use and secure.

 

[Wampa150]

Obviously an A,B,C, but what size do you like to carry?

I carry a pair of 2.5 (mostly due to fitment) so if I use one, I’ve got another backup. Two is one, one is none. Once they’ve been discharged, even a bit, they loose remaining pressure soon after. If I use one my first day out and then need it again at the end of the week, I may be SOL.

 

[Wampa150]

Ordering one of these now, direct from the manufacturer. Anyone use the magnetic mount? How do you like it?

Those are sweet! Thanks for the post. Damn pricey but you can’t beat the size. $80 is a bargain compared to watching your rig burn down

 

[Tupenny]

I have a Drakes quick release. No rattle, no slipping.

 

[mep1811]

I have 3 5# extinguishers in my Willys. I have a 5# Halon (1211) and 2 5# ABC (3A, 40BC) mounted in steel brackets with rubber straps. I used to have a 5# Purple K but kept getting it and the 5# ABC confused so I went with 2 ABC's.

Yup, I know sounds like a lot of overkill. After the fire is out I have never once heard anyone complain about too many extinguishers or having one that didn't get used. Once things get to burning too much is just about right, especially if it's my stuff.

Here's a pic of the brackets I use, easy to use and secure.

View attachment 129460

I like these mounts. Where do you get them?

 

[64Trvlr]

I like these mounts. Where do you get them?

I get them from my local shop, but they're on the web if you search for rubber strap extinguisher mount.

Here's an example page

Amerex 2.75"-4.5" Cylinder Rubber Strap Bracket 860

 

[RetiredNotDead]

Element E50 Fire Extinguisher

Element Fire E50

huddexpo.com

I use these element extinguishers. They are compact, they don’t expire or loose charge bouncing down a trail. Pretty handy, Clean look mounted on the truck too!

Same here... Element - Fire Extinguishers mine coming in from Canada. I keep it in the glove compartment. The E50 lasts about 50 seconds; non-corrosive and non-toxic , no residue; works effectively in temperatures from -140F to +320F ; no moving parts makes it unaffected by harsh environments or humidity. Element can safely be stored in damp and wet environments. No 'accidental' discharge. No service, upkeep or expiration. Weighs 0.6lbs (275grams)

 

[elizer]

I have two elements with magnetic mounts. I have a rear engine van and its tucked in right when you lift up the hatch. I also carry a standard extinguisher.

 

[Downs]

I have 3 5# extinguishers in my Willys. I have a 5# Halon (1211) and 2 5# ABC (3A, 40BC) mounted in steel brackets with rubber straps. I used to have a 5# Purple K but kept getting it and the 5# ABC confused so I went with 2 ABC's.

Yup, I know sounds like a lot of overkill. After the fire is out I have never once heard anyone complain about too many extinguishers or having one that didn't get used. Once things get to burning too much is just about right, especially if it's my stuff.

Here's a pic of the brackets I use, easy to use and secure.

View attachment 129460

We use those same mounts on our fire engines and trucks but in a rollover they may not hold very well. Nothing holds the extinguisher from sliding up and out of the mount.

 

[RetiredNotDead]

I have two elements with magnetic mounts. I have a rear engine van and its tucked in right when you lift up the hatch. I also carry a standard extinguisher.

Mounted mine in the center console, using two Large Grip Hook (Everbilt) from HomeDepot...wanted to grab it in the middle , without offset/rattle