Perfect! Thanks!Then I'll work on posting this up for June 27th-June 30th (I will plan on going down a day early to acquire the camping arrangments for the group). If that sounds good.
I have only been once myself. I camped there for the 14er event last year. I didn't see many of the actual 4-mile trails, but used it as a base camp and went to trails such as Mount Antero. There were some areas between Buena Vista and my campsite that would accommodate dozens of vehicles. Here is an entry I made on iOverlander.com for the campsite I used.. Realizing that I've seen only a small fraction of Four Mile, I'm not adamant about using that site.I feel that 10 vehicle would probably be max for the spots I saw when I was down there? But I'm sure we could find a overflow site as well.
Neil, I have only been down to 4-mile once to explore the trails in it. We did drive into a couple camp sites while we were down there. I know that these trails are mostly 2 w/drive friendly until you incounter the steep spots, but will make a good base camp to explore the surrounding trails. If you would help with the coordinates to that spot that would be helpful. I can copy and paste them into our rally point from my computer over the weekend. There is no guarantee it will be available but I can certainly try for it.
Maybe we can plan one trail a day for those that interested in riding as a group. Others can splinter as they choose. I wouldn't mind leading a group on Mount Antero. Perhaps we could plan one major trail a day and use any leftover time to explore the lesser trails of Four Mile Recreation Area?I don't know how much of a itinarary everyone wants in place, (I plan on using the spot as a base camp). it is an area I have grown fond of as it is only a couple hours drive from my home and from there only about 30 minutes to some epic trails, gost towns and so many other cool things to do.
This has always been confusing to me. Do you know where to find a current trail list? All I am able to find is THIS post by @Anchor Mtn on another forum. Perhaps he can enlighten us?One thing is, I have never had any rangers check for it, but 75% of the back country trails (4-mile included) reqiure a yearly offroad permit. It the same permit that atv's require to be legal on the trails. I usually get mine every year in March-March it cost $25 a small price to pay to help keep these gems available to all to enjoy.
Is that area just west of canyon city? By the gold belt loop? Went to a mountain biking area last summer for a meet-up overnighter. Was nice down there.Let's not let all the talk of the Four Mile trip dissuade us from checking out the Seep Springs OHV area! How about one of the first two weekends in June?
According to StayTheTrail, the list is quite small in the bigger scheme of things.Basicly any trail that is open to ohv's is subject to it. Ei; side by sides motorcycles and other atv's not highway legal. You can go to Stay the trail and the State forest site for more info.
1 21 Road Jeep Trail (Hunter Canyon) BLM Grand Jct. Field Office 2 Basin 4WD Trail – #2603 GMUG National Forest – Grand Valley RD 3 Big Creek Trail – #265 (+spurs) GMUG National Forest – Grand Valley RD 4 Billing’s Canyon Rock Crawl Route BLM – Grand Jct. Field Office 5 Bittle Loop Trail #269 GMUG National Forest – Grand Valley RD 6 Boulder Canyon Rock Crawl Trail BLM – Dry Creek Area – Montrose 7 Brush Creek Jeep Trail – #9738 GMUG National Forest – Gunnison RD 8 Cabin 4WD Trail – #2606 GMUG National Forest – Grand Valley RD 9 Cactus Ridge Trail BLM – Dry Creek Rec. Area – Montrose Field Office 10 Calamity Canyon Rock Crawl Trail BLM – Dry Creek Rec. Area – Montrose 11 Carnage Canyon Rock Crawl Route BLM/USFS/CPW – Buena Vista/Salida 12 Castle Rock Jeep Trail #881 (+spurs) GMUG National Forest – Paonia RD 13 Coal Creek Mesa Trail #711 (+spurs) GMUG National Forest – Paonia RD 14 Corral Gulch Trail #2658 GMUG National Forest – Grand Valley RD 15 Death Row Rock Crawl Trail BLM – Dry Creek Area – Montrose 16 Deplar Park Jeep Trail #9769 GMUG – Gunnison National Forest 17 Die Trying Rock Crawl Trail BLM – Dry Creek Area – Montrose 18 Flattop Jeep Trail #9863 (+spurs) GMUG – Gunnison National Forest 19 Freedom Rock Crawl Trail BLM Royal Gorge Field Office – near Penrose 20 Full size trails #265 & 701 (seasonally) GMUG National Forest – Paonia RD 21 Gunsight Pass Trail #9585 GMUG – Gunnison National Forest 22 Hancock Pass Jeep Trail #9266 GMUG – Gunnison National Forest 23 Independence Rock Crawl Trail BLM Royal Gorge Field Office – near Penrose 24 Italian Pass Jeep Trail #9642 GMUG – Gunnison National Forest 25 Jenny Creek 4WD Trail #808.1 Boulder RD – Roosevelt National Forest 26 La Fair Trail #2668 GMUG National Forest – Grand Valley RD 27 La Plata Canyon Full size trails #791-798 San Juan National Forest – Columbine RD 28 Land’s End Trail #897 GMUG National Forest – Paonia RD 29 Liberty Rock Crawl Trail BLM Royal Gorge Field Office – near Penrose 30 Lime Ridge Jeep Trail #9624 GMUG – Gunnison National Forest 31 Little Coal Creek Jeep Trail #883 GMUG National Forest – Paonia RD 32 Little Bear Lake Trail #2660 GMUG National Forest – Grand Valley RD 33 Lone Cabin Jeep Trail #876 GMUG National Forest – Paonia RD 34 McDonald Mesa Jeep Trail #8891.B GMUG National Forest – Paonia RD 35 Middle-Middle Rock Crawl Route BLM Colorado River Valley Field Office – near Gypsum 36 Mud Holes Trail #2670 GMUG National Forest – Grand Valley RD 37 Mud Springs Rock Crawl Routes/ Area BLM Tres Rios Field Office – near Cortez 38 Napolean Pass Jeep Trail #9540 (+spurs) GMUG – Gunnison National Forest 39 Needle Rock Jeep Trails #712.1B&.1C & 881 GMUG – Paonia RD 40 North Bench Trail #2633 GMUG National Forest – Grand Valley RD 41 Old Tin Cup Pass Jeep Trail #9267.3D GMUG – Gunnison National Forest 42 Patriot Rock Crawl Trail BLM Royal Gorge Field Office – near Penrose 43 Rangely Rock Crawl Park (all trails) BLM White River Field Office – Rangely, CO 44 Raven Mesa Trail #711 GMUG National Forest – Paonia RD 45 Red Canyon Trail #5118 GMUG National Forest – Norwood RD 46 Schoneman Ditch Camp Jeep Trail #8703.3A GMUG – Paonia RD 47 Scratch and Dent Rock Crawl Trail BLM – Dry Creek Rec. Area – Montrose Field Office 48 Sidewinder Jeep Trail BLM – Kremmling Field Office 49 Sims Mesa Trail #6115 GMUG National Forest – Ouray RD 50 Spur Jeep Trail #6544.3B GMUG National Forest – Ouray RD 51 Sun Creek Jeep Trail #9637 GMUG – Gunnison National Forest 52 Ten Falls Rock Crawl Route #8483 BLM CO River Valley FO – near Gypsum 53 Throughline Jeep Trail #8864 GMUG National Forest – Paonia RD 54 Tierod Bender Rock Crawl Route BLM CO River Valley FO – near Gypsum 55 Todd Reservoir Jeep Trail #8891 GMUG National Forest – Paonia RD 56 Tomichi Pass Jeep Trail #9888 GMUG – Gunnison National Forest 57 Topless Rock Crawl Trail BLM – Dry Creek Rec. Area – Montrose Field Office 58 Union Canyon Trail #9631 (+spurs) GMUG – Gunnison National Forest 59 Upper-Middle Rock Crawl Route #8469 BLM CO River Valley FO – near Gypsum 60 Virginia Creek Jeep Trail #814 (+spurs) GMUG National Forest – Paonia RD
According to the StayTheTrails link above it is only required on licensed vehicles for the listed trails.Yes, you need to have a ohv registration sticker for any public lands or trails. It's available at most State wildlife offices. To get one you need a bill of sale, fill out a form and pay $25 (not sure if fee is one time only). You'll be given a temporary registration and the permanent sticker comes in the mail.
I wouldn't be so adamant about it except I don't want participants to believe this license is required for this event. The only nearby trail I can remember on the list is Tomichi Pass.In addition to the many miles of Off-Highway Vehicle trails and ‘roads open to all vehicles’, there are a number of Full Size Trails open for recreational travel in Colorado. Although these trails allow for full width vehicles, they differ from most BLM and U.S. Forest Service roads as they are designed for recreational, motorized use rather than simply for transportation. A Colorado Off-Highway Vehicle Permitis therefore required on any licensed/plated vehicle that is used for recreation on these trails. This $25.25 permit must be displayed on any full size vehicle traveling these trails even if that vehicle has a currently registered license plate from Colorado or any other state.