Those fancy mapping apps will not save you...

Anybody use this? It's pricey but looks like it might be a good option! They have other options that are more expensive with larger screens, better prices on Amazon!

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Anybody use this? It's pricey but looks like it might be a good option! They have other options that are more expensive with larger screens, better prices on Amazon!

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My only experience is that O helped another Overlander that had the Garmin Overlander edition. We talked for hours trying to get it to work right. He threatened to send it to me to figure it out and then teach him how to get it to work. I politely declined. What a pain it was. We talked to tech support and we were more knowledgeable of their product then they were. It was really sad. The file management architecture is not for the faint of heart, from planning on a pc to transferring the GPX file to the device took a long time to get it synced and then it only worked once. Now I am not an expert on the garmin devices but I played one on tv for 1 season!!!
IMHO, I would not buy one.
 
Anybody use this? It's pricey but looks like it might be a good option! They have other options that are more expensive with larger screens, better prices on Amazon!

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That something, a real early 21st Century thing, for the Overlander who has most everything I suspect, showing snowmobile trails!

I don't have one, I probably would never use one if I had it. The Garmin unit I mentioned which I bought decades ago was state of the art, used only a few times in boating lakes and rivers, then it went to a drawer. Later, it went to box in the closet, it still lives today in the garage with a very dead battery.

I think tech is stealing the adventure out of adventure travels, what's adventurous about seeing what's around the next corner or over that hill? Seems to be very little discovery to experience and motivate exploration, you can simply turn on your gizmo and zoom in to an area on the face of the earth.
 
Gaia lost me with a severe price hike, lack of new features/polish, and the removal of my most-used map layer. In protest, I gave OnX a try. It's fine, I guess. Neither of them have ever worked like I wanted them to.

Avenza has the map layer I want, but has no web-based interface to build routes and add markers. I'm not doing all of that on a phone/tablet. I have too much data to move over. I need a keyboard, mouse, and a large screen to work from.

I'm looking forward to what Mapkind is able to offer. Mapkind GPS Developer Venture4wd/Chris has lived and breathed maps for years. I know he understands the sort of functionality we need most from a mapping app.
 
Gaia lost me with a severe price hike, lack of new features/polish, and the removal of my most-used map layer. In protest, I gave OnX a try. It's fine, I guess. Neither of them have ever worked like I wanted them to.

Avenza has the map layer I want, but has no web-based interface to build routes and add markers. I'm not doing all of that on a phone/tablet. I have too much data to move over. I need a keyboard, mouse, and a large screen to work from.

I'm looking forward to what Mapkind is able to offer. Mapkind GPS Developer Venture4wd/Chris has lived and breathed maps for years. I know he understands the sort of functionality we need most from a mapping app.
Agreed, I’m subscribed to Gaia. I’ll give it another try when we get back out west. So far- not impressed. We were in Grand Staircase and then up into the San Rafael Swell. Our Nat Geo maps were much more accurate than Gaia. We also Google earthed the area for even more detailed info. However, our best adventures and discovery of the best campsites has always been and remains to be, seat of the pants navigation and checking the paper maps once in a while.