True, I'm a member of some of those as well. I really like the OB core principles though and the work that's being done elsewhere (track cleanups, training etc). Would love to see more of that down here. It's a bit of a struggle to get folks together on some of these other forums (or maybe just in general ). To that point I'm working with a few NPO's that do volunteer work in parks and reserves (maintenance, clean-ups etc) and getting volunteers has been really difficult. Now considering the overlanding community is one of the biggest user groups of these this should not be such a difficult task imho.Yip, seems SA based members few and far between. Many other forums and clubs on the go that like minded people seem to focus on rather.