shovels, gear attachments, roof rack input

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rockwind1

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hey, long time listener here, first post. have a 2016 4runner trail with a frontrunner full roof rack. it has nice slide in tracks for tying stuff down. trying to figure out where to put all my chit. high lift jack, shovel, in particular. want to be able to get at if stuck. for guys used to the southwest, what gear is good to have in our specific area, southern nevada to be specific. what is everyone's go to shovel? anything in particular? how are folks attaching stuff to a frontrunner rack, like shovels, jack, maxtracks, box with straps and shackles. plus what if yo put a rtt up there, then where does gear go. just questions running thru my mind. i have a smitty winch on the front, 10k rope style. haven't ever used it.

anyone have a favority good yet reasonably priced place to buy recovery gear online?
 
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My go to shovel is a yard round nose shovel. They are so much more comfortable than a t-handle. A couple of bungees wrapped down the shaft hasn't failed yet. You can leave the ax at home also. I also take a small breakdown army shovel for under the truck. Most of my stuff rides in a action packer strapped to the rack. I use a floor jack so no help there. I get my recovery gear from Checker Flag Off road Recovery Gear
When you up to your butt in crap, do you want cheap? Saving a couple bucks isn't worth a critical failure. IMHO.
 

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Highlift across the rear hitch frame or Wilco hitch gate tire thing. In the winter, the HL goes under my rear seat. Rusty HL's are worthless.

My shovel fits under the truck. It's unlikely that I'll get so stuck, that I won't be able to get it out. There's all kinds of room under a fullsize truck, but that might not be an option on a 4runner. And the body is much higher than the axles on a SD Ford. Compressor and aux battery will also be soon mounted under the truck.

Straps and shackles go under the rear seat. Maxtrax are obsolete in my area. I use Tire Claws instead, and keep them with my straps and shackles.

Two bottle jacks and a plastic sledge hammer behind the seat.

Without a slide in camper, all of that goes in, or bolted onto, a 55g Stanley Tote or two, ratchet strapped down in the bed. One tote for recovery gear, and a blade removed chainsaw. Other tote for tents and camp gear. Kayaks can be strapped to top of totes.
 
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rockwind1...........................

anyone have a favorite 'good'.... yet reasonably priced place to buy recovery gear online? ....................... "Amazon for reviews, and some price shopping"................

MY OPINION:........For sure .... one 6 ton. If another is needed, then a smaller 4 ton bottle jack.

for guys used to the southwest, what gear is good to have in our specific area, southern nevada to be specific.

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Living in the same area as you, trees are not the option, that other OB members have in their geographic areas to fall back on, and that we can get to unless we head into higher elevations. For basics, you will need a shovel or two (full size or shorter D-handle, and a military folder), 3-4 D-shackles-steel, (option with new rated for size synthetic shackles), a 8 ft tree saver/tow strap(static), a snatch strap 20 or 30 ft (dynamic)**, and a tow strap 30 ft(static). The static ones can be used as line extensions if needed. This is the most basic. Learn how to thread the loops or use a synthetic shackle. Do not use the steel ones to attach the 2 of them. THERE ARE SOME GREAT YOU-TUBE VIDEOS ON THIS. Ronnie Dahl, Micheal from 'Seek Adventure" etc.

A upgrade would be a set of recovery boards for silt beds.....'think Jean Roach dry lake bed....north end of it', a winch, where those line extension straps might come in handy. Gloves and winch/strap blanket damper. Make sure your straps are over a 1.5 minimum or a 2.5 safety margin vs your vehicles wt. Make sure to factor your truck being at or near the frame-rails being in the dirt, or the rare mud.

If you carry a High Lift Jack, invest in a base stabilizer or a solid piece of wood, to keep from sinking. A wheel lift ( Hi-Lyft jack accessory) to jack a tire and rim up to stuff rocks or shovel dirt back under can be helpful also. It is easy to see investment money climb quickly. If your in the habit of wheeling with others, a winch is not necessary, but that recovery strap/shackles are! One other thing........a rear receiver D-Ring 'stinger, and a front recovery set of hooks are greatly recommended. After all you need a place to attach those straps:grinning:

There are some other threads on gear selection and options. Start with the minimum and gradually add to it as needed,,and as situations manifest themselves....your wallet will appreciate that.

PS: having a couple of short pieces of wood can come in handy (2x6) for unexpected situations. Hope that helps, and gets you in the right direction. Hope to see you in the future.
 
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rockwind1

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My go to shovel is a yard round nose shovel. They are so much more comfortable than a t-handle. A couple of bungees wrapped down the shaft hasn't failed yet. You can leave the ax at home also. I also take a small breakdown army shovel for under the truck. Most of my stuff rides in a action packer strapped to the rack. I use a floor jack so no help there. I get my recovery gear from Checker Flag Off road Recovery Gear
When you up to your butt in crap, do you want cheap? Saving a couple bucks isn't worth a critical failure. IMHO.
thanks for the link, good website but i gotta say,,, checkered flag is hard to get a hold of for any questions, no phone number on their website and no answer to the email form i sent via their contact us link. but it looks like good stuff. it's expensive gear and i don't think a couple questions is out of line to make sure someone orders the right stuff, rather than having to ship it back.
 
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thanks for the link, good website but i gotta say,,, checkered flag is hard to get a hold of for any questions, no phone number on their website and no answer to the email form i sent via their contact us link. but it looks like good stuff. it's expensive gear and i don't think a couple questions is out of line to make sure someone orders the right stuff, rather than having to ship it back.

Try Lift-it they are Checker Flags Partner/Mfg. They are a Rigging Supply Co. I think Mike is the guy to talk to. I meet him at the Expo. he knows his stuff.