Green Lanes in the North York Moors?

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kayasaman

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Hi everyone,

I'm slowly putting together a trip together which will take me and my family round the UK and mainly the National Parks, provided my health improves (as I haven't been able to drive or even leave the house for over a year, but now at least thanks to new medication things might improve??).
The trip will probably be about a month or 2 journey depending how engulfed we get in things, and it will be a great precursor to getting more video camera/drone and Color Grading experience for a much longer trip round the globe possibly using a Patriot ST5 camper.

Last year I got to go up to Scotland for 2 weeks (cyan color going up and gray color coming back down - recorded on the Garmin 67i InReach) which was a lot of fun even though my 4 door sedan was seriously at a disadvantage on the trails around the Alladale reserve, I actually got pretty far after taking a wrong turn and getting lost. Infuriating though to have a blasted LandRover Discovery blow by me at 10MPH when I could only achieve around 2MPH on lowered sports suspension haha... I did get to drive the Defender 110 though which was the highlight of the 2 weeks I was up there....

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Once I grab the Gen6 4Runner build that I want they'll be sorry LOL (speed limit for their private tracks is actually 15MPH and I won't even need to lock the diff or unlock the front sway bars hahahahah), sadly no Baja style 40MPH dashes and getting airborne and reminiscing over the X Games MOTO-X style "big air".

Currently this is my plan - using Garmin Explore:

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Starting over at Whitby, I found this website which showed the Green Lanes around the area and has difficulty levels from "easy" to "moderate" to "hard":


There seems to be a trail going from Whitby area to Middlesbrough and rated at "moderate". Strangely the pictures I see are nothing more then a few offroaders and softroaders on gravel and dirt tracks and grass!

Has anyone done any of these trails and what is to be expected? I tried looking at the satellite view but didn't see anything special.....

I wonder would it be something like this which has a 7/10 difficulty rating using OnX:
Or perhaps this?:


Strangely I'm not really seeing anything pop up on Garmin Explore or Tread in terms of trails in that area - maybe they don't consider these "lanes" trails??


Thanks for any input :-)
 

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Loving your use of the Lexus on the green lanes
Haha... don't ask!

It is going to be swapped out with something more capable

Though crazy thing, be careful if traveling with a Pro Photographer!!
The deal was he flew up but gave me all his luggage and there nearly wasn't enough trunk space left for me....
 

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Loving your use of the Lexus on the green lanes
Ps. This is the 3-part playlist I made:


Luckily I have now understood color grading a bit better as I've been reworking my material

Really can't wait to drive out to Turkey and explore the rest of the country from Ankara/Antalya towards the east

Then hit central Asia through Armenia and Georgia, into Azarbaijan, across the Caspian Sea, then Khazakistan and towards Mongolia

Who knows I may even end up getting FPV drone footage at 150km/h around the Pamir mountains
 

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Heading across to Mongolia sounds like a great trip-it looks amazing out there - when are you getting the 4runner? Some green lanes have a lot of low hanging branches which can damage the paintwork of a nice shiney vehicle- may be worth taking a saw
 
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Heading across to Mongolia sounds like a great trip-it looks amazing out there - when are you getting the 4runner? Some green lanes have a lot of low hanging branches which can damage the paintwork of a nice shiney vehicle- may be worth taking a saw
Right now everything is in it's initial stage of planning

I've put together a list of the tech I would need, eg. Camera system for various environments, GPS panel, 2-way radio etc

What I'll need to though is "skill up" as I have no survival skills or experience with camping.
I may even need to learn to make stuff like Pemmican which is an indiginous Arctic Canadian neutrician and energy suppliment

It's really exciting and I'm really looking forward to it!!

The only difficult part is going to be my health which I'm having nightmares about.
Sadly after Scotland, on the way back just outside Preston I ended up with a massive panic attack and things have really gone downhill since. For over a year now I've been fighting with so many things and it doesn't look like the new medication will simply make me back to "normal"

I'm still determined and fighting through everything though ;-)
 

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Are your panic attacks related to vehicle use?
I've got ASD (Autism Spectrum) and ADHD

So the panic attack is a stress response

It's complicated and convoluted sadly. Currently I'm working with a doctor to try to find some medication to alleviate the symptoms

It happened 20 years ago too while trying to start my career. As a result I have not been able to use public transport any more
 

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Driving past preston can be traumatic for anybody
Ha ya, M6 <sigh>

Though I went up the other way on the M1 and once I hit Tibshelf? Was it? The weather was crazy. Low visibility and heavy rain plus rush hour traffic and a heck of a lot of trucks around

Managed that fine and the 8 hours it took me to get to Edinburgh
 

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A friend of mine recently had a small bump in a car- it brought on ptsd from a crash he had over 20 years ago . The brain has a way of sweeping things under the carpet that need to be dealt with.
have you found any survival or off-road driving training courses anywhere?
 

kayasaman

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A friend of mine recently had a small bump in a car- it brought on ptsd from a crash he had over 20 years ago . The brain has a way of sweeping things under the carpet that need to be dealt with.
have you found any survival or off-road driving training courses anywhere?
You are absolutely correct about our brains sweeping stuff under the carpet.

What I found from an article on Neuroformativity from a group of specialist psychologists mentions exactly that. Stress builds up over time through various pressures or stressors then finally can contribute to long term damage:

"1. Societal norms and expectations
Neuroformativity establishes and reinforces societal standards for “normal” behavior, communication, and social interaction based on neurotypical patterns. This creates pressure for neurodivergent individuals to conform and mask their neurodivergent behaviors or risk being seen as “different” or “problematic.” This masking can be exhausting and ultimately lead to burnout. It also can mean ADHD and autistic people feel like people don’t know the real them, especially when they mask differently around different people. This can lead to self-esteem issues as well as exacerbate other co-occurring mental health struggles."

"What is an Autistic Shutdown?
Similar to the “fight, flight, or freeze” stress response, autistic people often react to overwhelming situations with a meltdown (fight), an attempt to escape (flight), or an internal shutdown (freeze). An autistic shutdown in adults is a less obvious response to reaching your threshold. It’s when you feel so overwhelmed you internally “shut down” to cope. It’s like a protective mechanism when the world becomes too much.

Though they are a less obvious response, they’re equally important to recognize. An autistic person in shutdown mode may withdraw, become unresponsive, temporarily lose skills, and can easily be missed by people who are not used to your specific signs of shutdown ."



At the moment I haven't looked at anything other then places of interest

When I say survival, I am talking about basics like food or washing clothes when you're in the middle of nowhere
It's experience and one needs to work out what method works for them


Where I used to volunteer at a wildlife trust, the trainees would get offroad training and trailer training somewhere around the Milton Keynes area

Though it was mostly health and safety, and not the type of stuff I posted above from TFLOffroad

I think rock crawling would be far more interesting a subject to be taught if at the same time it teaches judgement and common sense rather then just dealing with paperwork and "don't do this or don't do that, this is dangerous" etc...

Does it matter if your 4x4 is only on 2 wheels? As long as the vehicle is under control