I grew up in the 70's, in New England and upstate New York without all that stuff. Real winter, compared to anything south of the Mason-Dixon line. Although many cars had a/c, ours never did.
To me, personally, a heated steering wheel is a bit much. Unneeded.
I never thought I would buy a vehicle with heated leather seats, even. That was until I was buying a truck 2 years ago, and I was trying to decide between a 2013 Chevy Silverado 1500 with cloth seats, and the 2014 GMC Sierra with heated leather.
My girlfriend basically stood between them, cocked her head towards the 2013 with cloth seats and said "I'm not getting in that one." That almost sealed the deal for buying the 2013!
But I said, eh, it's a grand or two difference. I bought the one with heated leather.
I would say I am happy with remote start, remote entry, and heated leather seats. Very helpful in the winters here
To me, personally, a heated steering wheel is a bit much. Unneeded.
I never thought I would buy a vehicle with heated leather seats, even. That was until I was buying a truck 2 years ago, and I was trying to decide between a 2013 Chevy Silverado 1500 with cloth seats, and the 2014 GMC Sierra with heated leather.
My girlfriend basically stood between them, cocked her head towards the 2013 with cloth seats and said "I'm not getting in that one." That almost sealed the deal for buying the 2013!
But I said, eh, it's a grand or two difference. I bought the one with heated leather.
I would say I am happy with remote start, remote entry, and heated leather seats. Very helpful in the winters here
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Maybe, but when your hands are painful when cold it makes a real difference. I laughed at having a heated steering wheel and swore I would not use it - during the summer. When winter set in the heated steering wheel became the best feature in my truck.
Look at me - I'm a victim. Hahaha
If cloth seats, no need for heat in the southern states. Leather, maybe.
Remote start, not if garage kept.
Adaptive Cruise, I personally hate it. I hate all driver interference "Aids".
Don't forget, if all you want is heated seats, they can be added aftermarket. (probably for less money)
Remote start, not if garage kept.
Adaptive Cruise, I personally hate it. I hate all driver interference "Aids".
Don't forget, if all you want is heated seats, they can be added aftermarket. (probably for less money)
Not accounting for medical conditions that can be lessened by these types of features. Oh, and I'm not even saying that people shouldn't have them UNLESS they have medical conditions. I'm just saying for me.
Then again, I got a 2014 GMC Sierra Z71 Double cab with heated leather seats for 10 or 12 grand less than the lowest price 2019 Chevy Silverado Trail Boss Custom, which was very bare bones inside. I was looking for custom because I like bear bones. But paying less and getting more features appealed to me too
I preface this with: not a jeep owner, never driven one, have played in the sand in one as a passenger. I grew up with cars that had rollup windows in a time when a tablet was something you wrote notes on with a pencil and it was made of paper. I drove and raced full manual and fully mechanical vehicles for 30 years; I never had any problem surviving and getting anywhere I needed to go without all the modern technology. My last 3 Fords all had some technology the BroncoSport has allot, I have it all turned off and the only thing I uses is the heated seats and steering wheel on cold Oregon nights because I don't dress appropriately for my climate. I drove a 1972 FWD imported rally car with fixed non-adjustable seats around for 15 years that did not even have a heater or windshield defroster never had any issues doing anything I needed to do. Now allot of that tech can be installed on a base model rig by the aftermarket like heated seats and steering wheel, power windows and door locks, backup and trail cameras, the list is endless talk to your local car audio and accessorizes dealer see what the price is compared to groups of tech offered by the factory in new cars. Good luck go play outside!
Dont get me wrong - um glad you like it. I have a hard time chewing on Adaptive Cruise as a safety feature. Is regular cruise considered a safety feature? No, it isnt. Its s convenience. So is adaptive. The driver should always have control of the car, even if we seem to be moving from a "doing" culture to a "supervising" culture. Maybe they sell it as a safety feature because it incorperates emergency braking, but that is only one part of it. The braking itself, to me, is the safety feature.
Splitting hairs? Maybe. I dont know
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No worries, I realized that your heated steering wheel comment was about your desires, just pointing out that something as silly as that can be huge for someone else. I thought it was silly until I realized what a difference it made for me.
It’s the braking part of ACC that scares me. I keep waiting for it to get confused and slam the brakes on. But I do like it for long trips because I am a cruise control user and it is better than plain cruise control. Less fiddling with the buttons, let it match the speed of the car I’m stuck behind. Don’t always use CC but it’s a nice break and helps mix it up on long road trips.
I use cruise much more now than I used to. So much better fuel economy. It us cool how adaptive cruise can match the speed of the car in front, I agree. The way i am, I'll probably try it 10 years from now and say "dang! I've been missing this all these years?!"
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Had ACC in a rental on a business trip and fell in love. No button pushing to try to match speed of car in front of you, just let it do it’s thing. Occasionally I’ll forget about it and find that I have been following a slow truck for a while and did not not even notice that I could have gotten around the truck and sped up.
There is something to say about these vintage Willys Overland models, mk1 bronco, Internationals, 1945-1971 Dodge powerwagons, and original 1st-5th gen 1935-1966 Chevy suburbans. You want to go a generation or two newer and the ever popular Ford Econoline van always a work horse that just keeps on working.
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For heated seats are a must anymore.
When I was 25 I landed on a tree stump during a skiing mishap, so there are times that my back hurts just from seating wrong, lifting stuff that day, not getting a good nights sleep. I do a lot of long trips and if my back starts hurting the heated seats help. In 2014 coming back from Alaska in my JKUR after about 3 hours I took some Advil or something for the pain and the heated seats went on.
Living in snow county, I like the remote start and adding it to my Tacoma, but I could live without if it was a pain to install.
The other stuff, I can take or leave.
When I was 25 I landed on a tree stump during a skiing mishap, so there are times that my back hurts just from seating wrong, lifting stuff that day, not getting a good nights sleep. I do a lot of long trips and if my back starts hurting the heated seats help. In 2014 coming back from Alaska in my JKUR after about 3 hours I took some Advil or something for the pain and the heated seats went on.
Living in snow county, I like the remote start and adding it to my Tacoma, but I could live without if it was a pain to install.
The other stuff, I can take or leave.
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Nahhh, but I’ll take a kitchen in my trailer with sleeping quarters. Hahaha. I guess we all choose our different comforts!I guess you guys want the water in your bidet on your camp toilet heated?
Now that is exactly what me and the lady friend both want for our rigs! No way can we justifying paying over $4000.00 for a wood box on a steel frame with an axle bolted to it. Tell me about your trailer? Some of these basic teardrops cost more than my brand new BroncoSport.I guess you guys want the water in your bidet on your camp toilet heated?
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I am an engineer so I designed and built mine from scratch. Check out the build thread. There are over $5000 in materials alone.
I saw the link and looked nice job. ID, ME here so thinking about building my own as well but no longer have a shop to work in.
My new truck has heated/vented seats and a heated steering wheel. Do I need them? No. Do I like them? Absolutely. Are they complicated? No. If they break you have a normal steering wheel and seat.
I sure wish my LJ had them! If I buy another vehicle I will pick those two options without a doubt. As for the rest of the options on the truck like ACC and remote start - I doubt I would miss those.
I sure wish my LJ had them! If I buy another vehicle I will pick those two options without a doubt. As for the rest of the options on the truck like ACC and remote start - I doubt I would miss those.
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I fail to see the appeal of going the same speed as the car in front of me, if he's slow I pass, if he's fast the man can talk to him on the side of the road instead of me.
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LOL use of fire is the preeminent springboard in mankinds evolutionary path, so yeah pretty much.I guess you guys want the water in your bidet on your camp toilet heated?
