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I'd look at around Hurricane. Watch Matts off Road Recovery for some ideas on YT. Also check out; https://accessmap.utah.gov/ Toquerville Falls looks inviting.

Sparksalot, I think that first pic is Shiprock, NM.

I was watching Jimmy Kimmel last night doing the man on the street sthick and a Grenadier stopped for the light behind them.

I did see that, the first link the $14.35 is for the wick not the stove. If you highlight the stove picture you get the stove price $396.02, still too expensive and they probably make them for the first company.

I just found this stove; what is old is new again; it is KISS, runs on lamp oil so fuel storage isn't much of an issue. Durn expensive though and that's why I don't have one. https://www.winnerwell.com/product/1191.html

Hi Corrie, Did you guys move? If you are asking about my blog to share, it is OK with me. It's on the web for knowledge and inspiration.

Great idea! Kinda what I did.; https://poppageno.blogspot.com/2021/08/land-rover-sand-mat-mount.html https://poppageno.blogspot.com/2021/08/land-rover-recovery-boards-mounttable.html

Go up that way to Cedar Camp. It usually opens after April, not sure what condition it is in now after the fires a few years back.

For 2024?

What is long term, where, staying in Country? Satellite communications and a credit card. Millers Towing charges @$4000 to recover you from Saline Valley/Death Valley area. a winch and hours of watching Matt's offroad recovery on YT to learn how to use it(and maybe how not to get stuck) .

I wanna go........sigh............

No I don't know, Even if they picked them up and put them in trucks and hauled them away it's not a big job. Like I said it depends on what they do with them and the size of their equipment. They probably have at least a 20T truck and a medium front end loader available, if not they can contract...

A lot depends on where they put them. They don't look too big a good sized front end loader should be able to move them. If it is just a matter of throwing them over the side even easier, push em over with a D9. Couple of hours then dump in some fill and compact and grade.

The Donner Party should have heeded that sign.....maybe more of them would have made it.

Very cool your boy must love it! No roll over protection? ;^)

Johnson Outdoors who owns Eureka announced they are closing the Eureka brand. Products will be available until sold out. From Outdoor Retailer; The Eureka product lines will be available for sale through the end of 2024 as Johnson Outdoors winds down Eureka's operations. Johnson Outdoors...

Nice! Not fair though that they get them before us........

We have all seen the signs, now learn the real story behind them; The Shadow People

Well, perfect is an opinion...For myself I like the white gas stoves. I have a single burner and a double burner, both Coleman. Mostly though I just use my Kelly Kettle to boil water when I am solo, coffee and backpacker meals. I did however make a solo debris burner stove I saw on an Australian...

I know we have all seen the signs of them. It took a trip to see the annular eclipse for me to realize how extensive they roam! As you travel know they are out there! https://poppageno.blogspot.com/2023/11/the-shadow-people.html