Off Grid Trailers - Expedition and Pando 2.0 The Ultimate Rugged Overland Off-Road Off Grid teardrop Trailer to Escape

Right On! Well I'm in LHC if you want to deliver down here or need anything!

Ken and I have discussed delivery to AZ. We will see when it is ready. Thanks
 
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We will be in Tempe in early Nov to visit my son at ASU. I would love to take a look at it if you are around. How much does it weigh? It looks like it sags your jeep pretty good. I would be pulling with a jeep as well, so a bit concerned about pulling up mountain grades. Thanks, Joel

Yes I’ve been thinking about upgrading my Tow Vehicle. It came up the 17 mountain between 62 and 42 miles an hour if you like the sites you don’t mind. There’s a big gathering up in Lake Havasu in November so I May not be around.
 
Yes I’ve been thinking about upgrading my Tow Vehicle. It came up the 17 mountain between 62 and 42 miles an hour if you like the sites you don’t mind. There’s a big gathering up in Lake Havasu in November so I May not be around.
Empty it comes in at 1800 pounds 300 pounds on the tongue
 
Thank you. I wish they had an option for a rear tire carrier to pull some weight off the tongue

You might be able to DIY something with the rear receiver but it is pretty hidden under the trailers. There are some tire swing outs available but I would have to hunt for a name. Then of course that could be in the way of the rear door.

Finding a way to put an XO Jack on the front for mobility reasons would be a big improvement. I did a DIY solution on my Turtleback with the same factory receiver but there was way too much play. So that is a no go. I need to find a way to bolt one on the tongue. They make moving a trailer with a higher tongue weight easy.
 
You might be able to DIY something with the rear receiver but it is pretty hidden under the trailers. There are some tire swing outs available but I would have to hunt for a name. Then of course that could be in the way of the rear door.
Wonder if a Wilco swingout recevier mounted tire carrier would work?
 
Wonder if a Wilco swingout recevier mounted tire carrier would work?

I think that's the brand I was thinking of but forgot home much they cost! I think I would put the spare on my vehicle roof rack. Of course if you don't have an RTT on the trailer then it could go there all the way aft. OR it would be cheaper to convert the hubs to your vehicle type and just bring 1 spare for most trips. Only time I bring 2 is when I will be way out in the middle of nowhere like Baja. Even then just bringing a spare tire that a local shop could mount would be sufficient.
 
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Empty it comes in at 1800 pounds 300 pounds on the tongue

James, sent you a P.M........ I would love to see your rig as I'm getting ready to order one but have not actually seen one in person... I was about to pull the trigger on the Boreas XT but I think the expedition checks all of the boxes and the quality looks amazing. Let me know when would be a good time to come by and check it out... my cell phone number is in the message...

Thanks, Dan
 
We will be in Tempe in early Nov to visit my son at ASU. I would love to take a look at it if you are around. How much does it weigh? It looks like it sags your jeep pretty good. I would be pulling with a jeep as well, so a bit concerned about pulling up mountain grades. Thanks, Joel
I recommend to all my Jeep Owners to add a .75" spring spacer to the rear of the jeep to level back out! Aftermarket lift kits are designed to level out the factory rake in a vehicle. and adding the coil spacer make it ride level again!
 
I recommend to all my Jeep Owners to add a .75" spring spacer to the rear of the jeep to level back out! Aftermarket lift kits are designed to level out the factory rake in a vehicle. and adding the coil spacer make it ride level again!
That is a great idea. I have the Mopar 2.5 inch lift and 35s. Would this still apply?
 
Yes I’ve been thinking about upgrading my Tow Vehicle. It came up the 17 mountain between 62 and 42 miles an hour if you like the sites you don’t mind. There’s a big gathering up in Lake Havasu in November so I May not be around.
Which Gathering?
That is a great idea. I have the Mopar 2.5 inch lift and 35s. Would this still apply?
YES! Most all Lift Kits are Designed to raise the front more than the rear! Simply adding the $150 Spacer will correct most of the rear sag issue! 20180808_122131.jpg
 
Off Grid just published a nice comparison video between the 2 models. Hoping to get mine by the end of October. I did a little write up on my decision to buy. We are getting the Expedition 2.0 with a custom wrap. No RTT, No awning (for now), added heat, front basket, spare tire mount, extra SAE plug to power my truck mounted fridge.