New Nissan Frontier...

[Murphy Slaw]

Just saw a t.v. commercial for the re-design.

I would have thought this to be big news with the Nissan people, but it's been kinda quiet.

Maybe because no dealers actually have any vehicles right now?

 

[LostWoods]

Looks exactly what I expected the 4th gen Tacoma to be without the Toyota trapezoid grille. Strong profile, low beltline... I honestly love the way it looks.

Only sticking point is you've migrated from a platform old enough to drive itself rooted in the days that Nissan made a very capable, reliable pickup/SUV and are now into modern Nissan territory... I would definitely not buy one until it's had a few years given the way other Nissan vehicles have been in the past 5-10 years.

 

[Crusader]

The Frontier uses the same engine as last year.

 

[Arailt]

My neighbor works at a Nissan dealer and he drove one home yesterday. Really sharp. I'm not a Nissan guy, but they look great in person and on paper. Great prices compared to the Tacoma.

 

[LostWoods]

The Frontier uses the same engine as last year.

Which is still a newer design but either way, I mean the quality of the rest of the vehicle is what Nissan has left to be desired. They have been targeting a specific market segment that demands cheap cars to be financed by anyone, not quality vehicles that will last 15+ years. A 300k engine is meaningless if the rest of the truck falls apart around it in a decade.

 

[reaver]

Looks exactly what I expected the 4th gen Tacoma to be without the Toyota trapezoid grille. Strong profile, low beltline... I honestly love the way it looks.

Only sticking point is you've migrated from a platform old enough to drive itself rooted in the days that Nissan made a very capable, reliable pickup/SUV and are now into modern Nissan territory... I would definitely not buy one until it's had a few years given the way other Nissan vehicles have been in the past 5-10 years.

I've been following the development of the '22 Frontier from the getgo. While it's a new truck on the outside, and inside the cab, pretty much everything else has been out for a bit.

Engine/Trans combo debuted in the '20 model year. The frame is almost identical to the previous generation (which is not a bad thing).

I believe it uses the same suspension geometry as the previous generation (according to All Dogs Offroad, who's working on a 3in lift for it).

That being said, I have a 2013 Pro-4x that I bought about 6 months ago, and I have ZERO regrets. I'll give it a few years before even considering getting a new one.

 

[LostWoods]

I've been following the development of the '22 Frontier from the getgo. While it's a new truck on the outside, and inside the cab, pretty much everything else has been out for a bit.

Engine/Trans combo debuted in the '20 model year. The frame is almost identical to the previous generation (which is not a bad thing).

I believe it uses the same suspension geometry as the previous generation (according to All Dogs Offroad, who's working on a 3in lift for it).

That being said, I have a 2013 Pro-4x that I bought about 6 months ago, and I have ZERO regrets. I'll give it a few years before even considering getting a new one.

I was so damn close to buying a 2017 Pro-4X but they just would not deal on it. It just felt like a simple rugged truck to me and I loved everything about it. I just couldn't swallow paying MSRP for it when even Toyota recognized the down market and was dealing on Tacomas.

 

[reaver]

I was so damn close to buying a 2017 Pro-4X but they just would not deal on it. It just felt like a simple rugged truck to me and I loved everything about it. I just couldn't swallow paying MSRP for it when even Toyota recognized the down market and was dealing on Tacomas.

This isn't necessarily a bad thing. The old Frontier is a solid platform, so why bother with a complete redesign of the frame is it's a solid starting point.

They took that solid base, completely reworked the suspension, cab mounts, and a few other areas, and put a completely redesigned body on top. And gave it more power. Seems like a great rework, and from what I hear, they hit it out of the park. Now all we need to do is wait and see if it's as reliable as the VQ40 with the 5 speed in the previous generation.

 

[Mojavewanderer]

The new frontier actually looks pretty good. Automakers seem to have been competing with each other to make the ugliest truck lately. My local dealer has about a dozen on the lot, which really surprised me, all the new car lots are empty. The Chevy dealer next door has 7 new cars total.