Since my truck is my daily driver, the bed is empty all the time unless I'm actually hauling something (groceries, feed, lumber, supplies, etc). 100% of my camping gear stays in my garage unless I'm on a trip. Then, it's cable locked to the bed for any short moments I may not be with the truck. Plus, there's always someone else along to ensure it's watched at all times.For those that have a Open bed and racks, do you worry about theft?
I've always used shells, I find they are stealth if you need them to be,but I will say when I'm on very dusty trails it gets in every where. That's with a very nice Z series ARE. Its definitely starting to make me consider other options. The Australian market solved that years ago with canopies. We are just starting to see them here....I see a lot of trucks here with a open bed, the rack with a roof top tent, why? What is the advantage. Is it because of the cost? is it most beds are short these days? Why no shell/topper? Why not a pop-up shell.
I have a long bed truck, shell and a overhead rack. The rack is for my toys, Surfboards, Kayaks, Fishing rods. whatever, sometimes I sit up there and watch the surf... I can sleep in the back and my stuff stays dry in the rain. It doesn't get dusty or muddy. It's mostly safe when I park somewhere and leave my truck. When I had smaller trucks brought a tent to keep stuff or sleep in, the rack/s was for toys and gear.
If this offends some of you, I apologize in advance. I just don't understand. If it works for you please tell me why.
Ah haaaa, you changed your mind, why ? You recently bought an RTT didn't you ?One of the nicest setup trucks I have seen is Chadlyb’s Toyota Taco. He has a sweet setup, and actually uses it lots! He put lots of thought in on everything on the truck. If he does not use an item, it is gone!
An RTT is way down my list for my use. My pop top Alaskan Camper works when I want that comfort. The rest of the time I sleep in a ground tent or my vehicle. Vance.
You don't have to reinvent the wheel here. I'm sure their are others in the forum who have already done what you want to do. Maybe some OB'er will tune into your post, they usually do on projects such as yours. There are many good builds on utube by DYI guys.I have been planning this for the last two years. I am going to do a hybrid. Im going to have a cap/rack/RTT setup. I daily drive a lot with my truck and I want to be able to sleep in the cap, fish, store my stuff and then I am going to custom build a rack that integrates with the canopy so that I can put an RTT on top so when I take my kids camping they can sleep up top and I can sleep down below. I will have Leitner style side racks so that I can have water/gas etc. Dimensions are important since the main structural load has to be directly on the bed and not outside like some ladder racks are. I finally sold my 14' eco diesel and bought the 18' Hemi. Now the fun begins.
I spoke with a guy up in WA that does an awesome job building racks. Going to present my ideas and see what happens. Love my kids but do not want to sleep with them up in the RTT however I want to utilize the back of my truck so a canopy works as long as I can get the rack around or on top of it...You don't have to reinvent the wheel here. I'm sure their are others in the forum who have already done what you want to do. Maybe some OB'er will tune into your post, they usually do on projects such as yours. There are many good builds on utube by DYI guys.
Glad someone said it because I was about too. ;-)Sounds to me like you're trying to justify your style of overlanding equipment over another which is NOT what this forum is all about. There is no superior vehicle platform or superior style of sleeping arrangement. The only one that matters is the one that works for your specific needs and budget until either of those change.
Wanting to understand why some folks do what they do is cool but how you phrase your questions and responses makes a big difference in how the membership reacts to a post. That's why so many of us come here. To avoid snarky responses and feel welcomed no matter what kind of rig we drive or how we mod it.
Some of us like the versatility of a rack and tent that can be disassembled as needed for the occasion.
Some examples of how I use my truck. Some of which can be done with a cap and some can't or would be very difficult. And keep in mind, I like caps and may have one someday. They offer lots of other advantages I like.
Oops, I need to haul hay today? Shoot I wasn't prepared but I can do it.
Haul these office desks to the dump? Ok.
Herbicide spray day. So glad I don't have a bed rug or sleeping platform to soak up this water or potential herbicide leaks.
What do you mean we need to use my truck to haul the kids bikes to the bike park for his birthday party?
Shoot, those bikes don't fit under the rack. I'll just unbolt this 70lb rack real quick (4 bolts) and make room.
Well, you asked a question and got 5 pages of answers! Besides seeing all the reasons why people are doing what they do, did you get any useful ideas?? This forum is definitely a "buffet" of ideas and information, the purpose is not to eat it all, but pick out what you like. Sometimes it just takes a while to understand something. My neighbors couldn't understand why I have an excavator parked at my house, but when a storm hits and they need help moving fallen trees or need a trench dug to run power to their shop, it suddenly makes great sense...sometimes you just need to see something in action to understand it's purpose.I see a lot of trucks here with a open bed, the rack with a roof top tent, why? What is the advantage. Is it because of the cost? is it most beds are short these days? Why no shell/topper? Why not a pop-up shell.
I just don't understand. If it works for you please tell me why.
Suddenly I need an excavator.My neighbors couldn't understand why I have an excavator parked at my house, but when a storm hits and they need help moving fallen trees or need a trench dug to run power to their shop, it suddenly makes great sense...sometimes you just need to see something in action to understand it's purpose.
I enjoy threads like this and find that there is always some good tidbits of information to get no matter what the topic.
Thank you for asking Grubworm! I do understand why some use a open bed. This thread opened my eyes as why some have a open bed with a rack, many are very valid. This also reinforced some of my own decisions. I started use a small truck with a shell in the 80's when I was climbing. The "old guy with a cap" comment was pretty funny.(it fits me now) Most of my trips are go to a place and post up for a couple days and recreate with my toys. I need to place for surfboards and kayaks, fishing rods. Having a RTT is out for me. I used to think they were a bit of a fashion statement, that was very, very wrong of me, I don't think that now. I really don't care what people use as long as get out and have fun.
Where do people come up with these ideas about Granpa trucks. I'm a GG Grampa and neither me or my Father ever had a cap on our trucks. Station wagons, truck bed campers, travel trailers, Yes, and now SUV's that are off road capable. Grampa is keeping up with the times . I can see where a topper would be the way to go for certain people. It's a home on wheels. I even saw one topper on top of a trailer, and lastly someone gave me one about 15 years ago that they had no need for. I was going to make a green house out of it but didn't. I did use it for the roof of my chicken coop though.The wife comments about the “grampa truck” make me laugh because my wife said the same thing. My response being “why are you not in the kitchen making me a sandwich?”