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Not sure how active these sub forums are but here we go! I am new here and new to Overlanding in general and I am in Washington. Could anyone recommend some "beginner" trails that I can get some experience on in Washington.

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John, Welcome to Overland Bound! What part of Washington are you in? This will give folks a better idea of what to recommend. Starting to get to the time of the year when lots of forest service roads are going to close down due to snow, but depending on where you are there are usually some low level roads that are open at least part way during the winter.
 

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Thanks for the reply I actually live at Snoqualmie Pass Wa though I don't have a problem traveling to the east or west side of the state. I would probably enjoy it especially in the winter as you said most of the trails around my neck of the woods close
 

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Washington Backcountry Discovery Route (WABDR) is a great set of forest roads linked together running from Oregon to Canadian borders, we just ran section 3 (Ellensburg to Wenatchee) yesterday, but had snow above 5,000 feet, and plenty of slippery clay, expect that to be impassable soon. Stampede pass to Greenwater is a great run that may be open a bit later (at least parts of it) as its is a bit lower elevation than the WABDR. Douglas Creek area NW of Wenatchee has some fun trails at lower elevations. the Olympic Peninsula offers some coastal forest service roads that can be good for short trips. A good source of information are the websites for Mt Baker-Snoqualmie and Wenatchee National forests, they have listings of forest service road conditions and online maps.
 

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Washington Backcountry Discovery Route (WABDR) is a great set of forest roads linked together running from Oregon to Canadian borders, we just ran section 3 (Ellensburg to Wenatchee) yesterday, but had snow above 5,000 feet, and plenty of slippery clay, expect that to be impassable soon. Stampede pass to Greenwater is a great run that may be open a bit later (at least parts of it) as its is a bit lower elevation than the WABDR. Douglas Creek area NW of Wenatchee has some fun trails at lower elevations. the Olympic Peninsula offers some coastal forest service roads that can be good for short trips. A good source of information are the websites for Mt Baker-Snoqualmie and Wenatchee National forests, they have listings of forest service road conditions and online maps.
thanks for the information I was looking at information on the WABDR but was wondering if I should do something easier during this winter to work out my gear and tweek my setup and then maybe next summer try to tackle parts of the WABDR
 

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That would probably be a great idea, this weekend will be our last solo trip on the WABDR for the year due to trail conditions and the likelihood of getting stuck, that trail has three seasons; snowed out, mudhole, and dustbowl...lol but the views are fantastic and it's a lot of fun. In addition there are a ton of jumping on and off points along with side trails all over the place.
 

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Welcome to OB and Washington, like @OTH Overland said a lot of stuff around the NW is about to close for the season but there is lower elevation place to go or head to the coast.
Another bit of info to help people out with suggesting trails would be what kind of rig are you driving and is it stock or modified?

If you haven't looked into them yet check out the Washington Green Dot Roads. It's a system of "trails" put together by BLM and Fish and Game. I say "trails" because all of them that I've been on are easy and most could be traveled in a stock rig, I haven't been on them all but I've been to most of the regions and that's what I've seen. They would be a good way to get off road and get your feet wet without getting in over your head. But with anything off road weather can change that pretty fast. Some of the roads are open year around and some are closed for snow or seasonal animal habitat. They're worth a look and most are within a couple hours of you. One nice thing about the site is the maps are downloadable and they have them available in a format for printing.

Another source for trails on this site is the Overland Bound Routes: Downloadable section. Go there and filter by NW region and a few will pop up, 2 that I've been on that others have posted are Little Bald Mtn. and Kendall/Skyline Rd. Both are easy drives and offer camping along the way, but I think they both might be getting snow by now. Little Bald Mtn. is in an area referred to as "Clover Springs" there is a lot of other forest roads to explore up there and places to camp all over the place. There is harder 4x4/Jeep trails up there but if check your maps and read the posted signs you can avoid them until you are ready. Kendall/Skyline is a nice drive along the tops of the Blue Mountains running from Dayton, WA down to Jubilee Lake at Tollgate, OR and you can go even farther south on forest roads if you really want. Again tons of camping along the way ranging from improved camp grounds (vault toilets and fire rings, no water) to primitive dispersed. Most of the route is graveled forest road but there is a section that is dirt and becomes muddy and rutted in fall/spring, closed in the winter. Best time to hit it is early summer before it's super dusty and fire season. Also with this route you can turn off mid way to go to Walla Walla if you want a shorter run or just feel the need for some wine tasting/ breweries. In the downloadable section there is also a route I posted titled Bethel ridge loop, it's made up of part of section 2 of the WABDR and its bypass put together in a loop. This is another run that might be getting snow already and the trail portion of that gets pretty muddy and rutted up when wet. When it's dry it's pretty easy, but I haven't been across it since a fire went through last year so not sure of its current condition. I don't recommend the trail portion for a beginner when it's wet, the rest is just forest roads that are super easy and offer nice views and camping. I do have tracks/routes from trips to these areas if you're interested, I just never posted trip reports on them.
 

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Welcome to OB and Washington, like @OTH Overland said a lot of stuff around the NW is about to close for the season but there is lower elevation place to go or head to the coast.
Another bit of info to help people out with suggesting trails would be what kind of rig are you driving and is it stock or modified?

If you haven't looked into them yet check out the Washington Green Dot Roads. It's a system of "trails" put together by BLM and Fish and Game. I say "trails" because all of them that I've been on are easy and most could be traveled in a stock rig, I haven't been on them all but I've been to most of the regions and that's what I've seen. They would be a good way to get off road and get your feet wet without getting in over your head. But with anything off road weather can change that pretty fast. Some of the roads are open year around and some are closed for snow or seasonal animal habitat. They're worth a look and most are within a couple hours of you. One nice thing about the site is the maps are downloadable and they have them available in a format for printing.

Another source for trails on this site is the Overland Bound Routes: Downloadable section. Go there and filter by NW region and a few will pop up, 2 that I've been on that others have posted are Little Bald Mtn. and Kendall/Skyline Rd. Both are easy drives and offer camping along the way, but I think they both might be getting snow by now. Little Bald Mtn. is in an area referred to as "Clover Springs" there is a lot of other forest roads to explore up there and places to camp all over the place. There is harder 4x4/Jeep trails up there but if check your maps and read the posted signs you can avoid them until you are ready. Kendall/Skyline is a nice drive along the tops of the Blue Mountains running from Dayton, WA down to Jubilee Lake at Tollgate, OR and you can go even farther south on forest roads if you really want. Again tons of camping along the way ranging from improved camp grounds (vault toilets and fire rings, no water) to primitive dispersed. Most of the route is graveled forest road but there is a section that is dirt and becomes muddy and rutted in fall/spring, closed in the winter. Best time to hit it is early summer before it's super dusty and fire season. Also with this route you can turn off mid way to go to Walla Walla if you want a shorter run or just feel the need for some wine tasting/ breweries. In the downloadable section there is also a route I posted titled Bethel ridge loop, it's made up of part of section 2 of the WABDR and its bypass put together in a loop. This is another run that might be getting snow already and the trail portion of that gets pretty muddy and rutted up when wet. When it's dry it's pretty easy, but I haven't been across it since a fire went through last year so not sure of its current condition. I don't recommend the trail portion for a beginner when it's wet, the rest is just forest roads that are super easy and offer nice views and camping. I do have tracks/routes from trips to these areas if you're interested, I just never posted trip reports on them.
wow thanks this is super helpful. I am running a Rivian R1T all stock. As I use it more I will make changes where I can. All your advice is good I grew up in the Walla Walla area so I am familiar with many of the back roads in that area and the foot hills of the blues. I am going to dig into the Green Dot Roads as that sounds like a great place to start.
 
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