Advocate I
Off Grid Trailers (OGT) brand Owner's Thread
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Hey Off Grid Owners!
For those of you interested in camping out with the rest of the Pack at the Overland Expos in the USA and the Alberta Outdoor Adventure Expo in Canada we have set times and places to meet up.
For Overland Expo West, PNW & Mtn West we will meet up in a large parking lot in town and convoy to the event site together.
For Overland Expo East, the plan is to stage just inside the main gate, due to its proximity to any towns or large parking lots.
For the Alberta Outdoor Adventure Expo come see us at Booth 11 on your way in.
If you plan on attending please RSVP on this page so we know how many to expect and send updates incase there are any changes to the plan.
RSVP: https://offgridtrailers.com/pack-gatherings/
Looking forward to meeting you!
The OGT Team
For those of you interested in camping out with the rest of the Pack at the Overland Expos in the USA and the Alberta Outdoor Adventure Expo in Canada we have set times and places to meet up.
For Overland Expo West, PNW & Mtn West we will meet up in a large parking lot in town and convoy to the event site together.
For Overland Expo East, the plan is to stage just inside the main gate, due to its proximity to any towns or large parking lots.
For the Alberta Outdoor Adventure Expo come see us at Booth 11 on your way in.
If you plan on attending please RSVP on this page so we know how many to expect and send updates incase there are any changes to the plan.
RSVP: https://offgridtrailers.com/pack-gatherings/
Looking forward to meeting you!
The OGT Team
Resipsa
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Contributor II
Hi, I'm looking at possibly buying a 2018 Expedition 2.0. I'm wondering what, if any, the differences are between that and a new one?
Also, other than the departure angle and kitchen setup, are there any significant difference between the Pando and Expedition?
thanks for any help!
Also, other than the departure angle and kitchen setup, are there any significant difference between the Pando and Expedition?
thanks for any help!
Off-Road Ranger I
We have a late 2021 Expedition 2.0 and I can’t help with the differences between the 2018 and 2021 versions and the specific updates. We selected the Expo over the Pando as neither of us are anything resembling a chef, towing with a Jeep so the 500 lb lighter weight was an important consideration and the departure angle being 50° was also important.
Doors are different. Older models have standard RV doors, heater will be on the roof vs side if it has that option, one less door inside of the trailer, probably minor electrical differences. That’s about it. The differences are fairly minor.
Resipsa
Rank I
Contributor II
Resipsa
Rank I
Contributor II
Thanks. I'll be towing with a jku rubicon, the weight difference is something im thinking about between the expedition and the pando, as well as the departure angles
Advocate I
So, Sunday night I got back from the first long trip with our Pando 2.0. Total miles was around 3,500 (IL -> AZ and back for Expo West). Trailer was flawless! To recap, here's what I've done since we took delivery:
I currently have the standard 12v FLA deep cycle battery setup (~210Ah), electrical draw was the Dometic CFX3 55IM set to 34F and the ice maker turned off, some light use at night, went through most of the 14 gallon water tank, ran the fan here and there. I was parked at my mom's house Monday afternoon through Thursday morning, drove an hour to Flagstaff, then parked among the pines from Thursday around noon until Saturday afternoon. Other than the 1 hour drive to Flagstaff with the DC-DC charger connected I was only using solar with my single 120w panel. After 3-4 hours of decent sun and repositioning the panel the batteries would be charged. For the 12 hours or so with no solar the batteries never dropped below 12.5v and mostly only dropped to 12.6v. According to the Dometic app, the fridge averaged around 0.6Ah/h of draw once the fridge and food reached a steady temp.
The trailer was a little "jerky" over smaller bumps on paved roads, it was suggested that I run the trailer tires at 29PSI and that did make a big difference. When towing, I always drove the speed limit or no more than 5MPH over (max speed was 77MPH in 75MPH areas) and averaged just shy of 17MPG for the entire trip.
I want to thank @korydavis and the whole OGT crew for coordinating the group camping and putting together a great event at the Expo.
- Turned off the second bank of the NOCO GENPRO10x2 120v -> 12v charger as the new models don't support parallel charging to a single battery bank, both charger banks being on causes charger errors/resets and momentary overvolt (15+) conditions in the 12v trailer electrical system.
- Installed a Victron 100/30 MPPT solar charge controller, reused the existing Zamp/SAE wiring and am using an MC4 -> SAE adapter with my 120w portable solar panel.
- Installed a Victron 12/12-18 (18A) DC-DC charger using 6AWG wire and Andersen connectors.
- Installed an Expedition Essentials magnetic, folding paper towel holder w/ adhesive disks (because the trailer is aluminum).
- Wife made some interior window covers using quilting fabric with Insul-Bright insulating material in the middle. This still lets some light through so they're not full black-out covers. The sun can be shining directly on the windows and you won't feel heat coming through. They're exactly what I was hoping for.
I currently have the standard 12v FLA deep cycle battery setup (~210Ah), electrical draw was the Dometic CFX3 55IM set to 34F and the ice maker turned off, some light use at night, went through most of the 14 gallon water tank, ran the fan here and there. I was parked at my mom's house Monday afternoon through Thursday morning, drove an hour to Flagstaff, then parked among the pines from Thursday around noon until Saturday afternoon. Other than the 1 hour drive to Flagstaff with the DC-DC charger connected I was only using solar with my single 120w panel. After 3-4 hours of decent sun and repositioning the panel the batteries would be charged. For the 12 hours or so with no solar the batteries never dropped below 12.5v and mostly only dropped to 12.6v. According to the Dometic app, the fridge averaged around 0.6Ah/h of draw once the fridge and food reached a steady temp.
The trailer was a little "jerky" over smaller bumps on paved roads, it was suggested that I run the trailer tires at 29PSI and that did make a big difference. When towing, I always drove the speed limit or no more than 5MPH over (max speed was 77MPH in 75MPH areas) and averaged just shy of 17MPG for the entire trip.
I want to thank @korydavis and the whole OGT crew for coordinating the group camping and putting together a great event at the Expo.
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Enthusiast I
Many differences between the 2018 Expedition and the 2022 model. Some have been already noted, but here's what I can recall: Larger doors, lighting package, provision for A/C, inside cabin bin doors that open down (not up) and can be used as shelves, furnace on the side box with the water heater, water tank level view port, optional heavy jack, pure sine wave inverter option, different fridge options, independent trailing arm suspension option, optional heavier leveling jacks that can (I think) lift the trailer to change a tire, and interior shelf option. There's probably more.
The Pando has more of a kitchen. The Expo has more storage. I think fresh water tank capacity is different.
