1. I love the BDR routes.
2. I think/hope the majority involved with the BDR organization support access for all vehicles and not just motorcycles
3. I will continue to buy the maps if I use the trails.
Now the rant -
Some Overland/4x4 folks posted on the CO BDR Facebook group and the moderators didn't like it. While the tone was civil it was also ridiculous. We were told these routes were designed for motorcycles only! 4x4's and side by sides will destroy them. They don't want any discussion from anyone who is not on a motorcycle. If 4x4 discussion was allowed they would "take over" in a day. The moderators deleted the thread and then posted the attached message/image.
Since it is a Facebook group the moderators have every right to determine who can participate, what threads may remain, and what threads they want to delete. I have screenshots of the discussion prior to deletion.
These routes were designed by folks on dual-sport bikes. They are not only for motorcycles. I have done 3 complete routes and sections of others including parts of the CO BDR. ALL are on PUBLIC land, trails and forest roads. In many instances they are on wide graded dirt roads. There are homes on them, private land, cars, mountain bikes... you get the idea.
ALL that use these routes help with positive economic impact to the small communities on the routes. (Part of the BDR Mission statement)
The only thing being discussed was conditions of the route. That's it. This information is pertinent to all but I guess meant nothing when it came from someone in a vehicle (Not me)
"4x4's" reporting information could be useful to all but they don't want that in their Facebook groups.
As mentioned they can do what they want with their groups. Seems like they have no issue with participating in the Overland Expo events, NWOR, and others. You know those events that are dominated by 4x4's.
I still say enjoy the routes, be respectful/tread lightly as usual. I would encourage people to buy the maps as a small way to support those who take the time to design the routes. Don't bother participating in the Facebook groups if you are not on a motorcycle. Too bad. It is dumb and short sighted.
I am sure there are many OB members who do both vehicle based travel and motorcycle.
CO BDR Section 1 is easy and scenic. I did it with a friend and we were both towing trailers.
Ok I will shut up. None of this has anything to do with Overland Bound. It is a warning for those who participate or want to participate in the BDR Facebook groups. Rant over, be safe.
2. I think/hope the majority involved with the BDR organization support access for all vehicles and not just motorcycles
3. I will continue to buy the maps if I use the trails.
Now the rant -
Some Overland/4x4 folks posted on the CO BDR Facebook group and the moderators didn't like it. While the tone was civil it was also ridiculous. We were told these routes were designed for motorcycles only! 4x4's and side by sides will destroy them. They don't want any discussion from anyone who is not on a motorcycle. If 4x4 discussion was allowed they would "take over" in a day. The moderators deleted the thread and then posted the attached message/image.
Since it is a Facebook group the moderators have every right to determine who can participate, what threads may remain, and what threads they want to delete. I have screenshots of the discussion prior to deletion.
These routes were designed by folks on dual-sport bikes. They are not only for motorcycles. I have done 3 complete routes and sections of others including parts of the CO BDR. ALL are on PUBLIC land, trails and forest roads. In many instances they are on wide graded dirt roads. There are homes on them, private land, cars, mountain bikes... you get the idea.
ALL that use these routes help with positive economic impact to the small communities on the routes. (Part of the BDR Mission statement)
The only thing being discussed was conditions of the route. That's it. This information is pertinent to all but I guess meant nothing when it came from someone in a vehicle (Not me)
"4x4's" reporting information could be useful to all but they don't want that in their Facebook groups.
As mentioned they can do what they want with their groups. Seems like they have no issue with participating in the Overland Expo events, NWOR, and others. You know those events that are dominated by 4x4's.
I still say enjoy the routes, be respectful/tread lightly as usual. I would encourage people to buy the maps as a small way to support those who take the time to design the routes. Don't bother participating in the Facebook groups if you are not on a motorcycle. Too bad. It is dumb and short sighted.
I am sure there are many OB members who do both vehicle based travel and motorcycle.
CO BDR Section 1 is easy and scenic. I did it with a friend and we were both towing trailers.
Ok I will shut up. None of this has anything to do with Overland Bound. It is a warning for those who participate or want to participate in the BDR Facebook groups. Rant over, be safe.
